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Six Feet Under with Mark CalawayJustin Danger Nunley Talks Going Viral, Haters & The Craziest DM | Six Feet Under #51 Part 2
Six Feet Under with Mark CalawayJustin Danger Nunley Talks Going Viral, Haters & The Craziest DM | Six Feet Under #51 Part 2
Justin Danger Nunley Talks Going Viral, Haters & The Craziest DM | Six Feet Under #51 Part 2
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In this episode of Six Feet Under, Justin Danger Nunley sits down with Mark Callaway (The Undertaker) to swap wild stories about internet fame, wrestling memories, and unexpected moments from their careers. They break down crazy fan encounters, backstage chaos, and the kind of stories that can’t be made up.
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>> Here we go.
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>> You know, I come on.
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>> I'm coming back to you.
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>> That pop was something.
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>> It was something.
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>> It was a pop.
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>> It was.
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That was an ego pop.
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>> No, I have no idea.
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I wonder what you think you went back to the address?
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Well, you were there.
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>> How was there?
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>> What happened?
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What happened backstage after he came back?
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>> When I saw him, he was no sell on it and pushing his beer.
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I didn't see why I wasn't backstage when he came.
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>> Did you feel like giving him a hug after all?
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>> No, no.
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>> Here's like you're being a company man, right?
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>> Right, right.
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>> Did you feel bad for him?
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>> No.
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>> No.
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>> I got feelings for people like sometimes in life, things come back.
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>> It's funny that we were talking about this last night with all the podcasts and all the books and everything and everybody realizes that Hogan wasn't the guy that he was portrayed to be.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I'm not asking you to put yourself in a spot here, but I mean, he's not the guy as perspective.
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We grew up seeing Hogan as a stressing figure in the life of Americana, kind of deal.
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And then obviously, you know, he gets caught on tape, you know, saying some derogatory racist things.
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And you know, in this day and age where all of that is so such a hot button deal, like I don't know what you expect, like people are going to,
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you know, they're going to react and they're not going to react in a positive way.
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>> And I think also the other part too is, I think the fans themselves have found out what kind of locker room guy was and it means a lot to the fans that you're a good locker room guy as well.
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You know what I mean?
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>> That's probably a good point.
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I mean, the fans, they have access now to everything and they do and then they get to hear people's interviews and so, yeah, they kind of feel like they're part of that locker room and this was somebody that was,
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you know, regardless of where he's at now, you know, they still, they kind of carry a grudge about it because, you know, he's come back before yeah,
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since all of the stuff with his, you know, with his daughter and all the racial stuff and all that and he's came back and he's got positive reactions, you know, it's just.
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But it's like with my stuff, people know when you're being an authentic, you know, or you just there to push your beer, you know, and I'm not talking about I don't know,
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I don't know him, I've never met him or anything, so I don't know anything personally about him, but I just know, you know, from a fan perspective, you know, probably, you know, how everybody else feels too.
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Yeah, and two, it was, you know, it was LA and yeah, that's just they had kind of a different mindset anyway.
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I think with Hogan, I mean, he means a lot to wrestling.
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I mean without Hogan.
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No, no.
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He's about Rushmore guy.
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Yeah.
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He's about Rushmore guy.
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You've put him on your Mount Rushmore, even with the beef that y'all've had or whatever.
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But, you know, he's about Rushmore guy.
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Do you think steel?
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I think for what he did for the business, he has to be on the Mount Rushmore for what he did for the business, you know.
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I mean, when you talk Rushmore, you're only talking five, four, four, four, Justin.
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Are you sure?
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You ever been there?
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Are we not counting the mountain as one?
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Well, the mountain itself is the undertaker.
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Oh, you're not wrong.
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There you go.
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But no, that's the whole thing.
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It's like, he's still about Rushmore guy, no matter what, right?
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Because of what he did for the business.
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There he is.
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There's just four.
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We need to change that.
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Yeah.
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They got a whole lot of side.
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They could go back side.
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Yeah, they could, but yeah, they're going to put up there.
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The asses.
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The asses.
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I don't know if I will see some of those asses.
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That's four worse.
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Maybe you could just like down a mat, like a middle section out, and that's the JFK.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I'm saying, it's, we were doing good.
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We weren't.
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Let me pull it, Becky.
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Let me pull it back.
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All right.
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Let's get it.
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Let's get it.
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You talk to me.
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You're going to get boot next time.
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You come out.
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Yeah.
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I met that.
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I met that ZFG point in my life.
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Yeah.
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ZFG?
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Zero fucks given.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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I don't.
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If you're not in my circle.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't give a ****.
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Where everybody's got an opinion over everything.
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Everybody's got an opinion.
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And if you worry about everybody's opinion, that's one thing about about what I do.
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You know, people will message me all the time and they'll be, I'm offended over that joke, you know.
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And my response is always, okay, fine, you know, but let's not forget that the joke that made you follow me probably offended somebody.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, so let's not get that twist.
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Yeah.
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And it's all comedy.
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It's supposed to be something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Everyone's got him so, so sensitive.
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Why?
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I just did.
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We just did our dead kill tonings, New Year's Eve special and it's so refreshing to watch comics do their thing.
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Yeah.
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And not care.
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And not care.
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Not to.
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And you look out in your fan base or you look out in that audience and and there's every culture, every nationally, everyone's represented because everybody is having a great time.
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And you look on stage.
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The people he's employed.
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Yeah.
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You've got black, white, brown, Asian, everybody.
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I mean, he literally has the rainbow on his stage of people.
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No, he hired Gays.
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Did he hire you?
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Congrats.
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Great job.
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I love it.
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We're going to get hate for that by the way.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And it was just, you know, Tony, you know, and Tony said what he said at the Madison Square Garden thing at Trump's rally, but yet you look at who he is and who he employs and who he's a round and everything else.
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That doesn't matter.
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That doesn't matter.
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Yeah.
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People don't do that research.
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No, they don't do that research.
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They don't care.
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And they don't know how much he's done for the city of Austin in the comedy world and how much he's done.
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All those comedians that came in the green room that night, it came to meet you.
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All of those guys were doing open mics.
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They were struggling and everything else.
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Tony Hinchcliffe made them a celebrity and had them.
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They're all had got their own headlining Gays now.
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That's wild.
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And you're killing it.
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You should, you should go on there.
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Yeah.
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Do you want to do, do you want to take your, you're going to stand up or are you going to?
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Yeah, you should.
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I'm waiting until after I retire because I don't have time.
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Oh, that's true.
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You got it.
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You know, I'm still having to go to work.
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I had to take two days of leave from work to come here for this.
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You know, so that's one thing.
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People don't realize when I go do something or they see me at an event, you know, I'm having to take leave to be there.
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You know, now come, you know, March 1st.
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I'm not going to have to.
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Right.
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It's wide open.
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I can do whatever the hell I want to.
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So long as, you know, Emerald Coast, Harvey Names had a grease with it and I'll throw a T-shirt on an advertise for you while I'm there, you know, and it works out perfect.
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Yeah.
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So, I don't know.
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But after I retire, that's when I'm playing, I'm leaning fully into the, the standup.
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Yeah.
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You, I mean, you just, you have that, that comedic timing and, yeah, I think, I think you're going to kill it there too.
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Yeah.
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Plus the, yeah, with the, with the, with your content on social media and standup, I think.
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But I think I don't know.
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I could see you more kill, Tony.
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Yeah.
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60 seconds to see, but my, my mind works whenever I watch kill, Tony, like, I would almost want to negotiate like two appearances and the first one being going up there and bombing on purpose just so they can make fun of me.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's, it's entertaining.
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Then they'd come back, right?
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Yeah.
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It's wrestling.
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It's wrestling.
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Yeah.
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I want you to roast me after I'm done.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's funny.
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It told, I mean, Tony's killing it over there.
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That was that, that New Year's Eve was a fun night.
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I didn't know that flare was on there.
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Oh, yeah.
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So, so, so, Ric Flair evident not, not the night that I was there, but Ric Flair was on there another night.
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And he didn't, I don't think he underneath the, he didn't know what went, how the show went.
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And he got, he got mad that everybody was being so mean to the comics.
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He's like, really?
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That's the gag, man.
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That's, that's the, that's the thing.
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Yeah.
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He got pissed and like got up and left and left.
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Oh, that's why he left.
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I saw the clip of him getting up and leaving.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He thought they were making fun of everybody.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my lord.
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And he thought that it was like, like, he's like, why aren't you all being so mean to this person?
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And it's like, that's the, that's the gimmick, that's what, that's why they're here.
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That's why they're here.
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They showed up when he is.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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I think maybe that's just how sensitive everyone.
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He's like crap.
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I can't be a pollucated with.
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He didn't want to get out.
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He didn't want that.
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Yeah.
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Of all people, Ric Flair was like, oh, I can't be associated with this now.
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No way.
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This is the thing that I can't be associated with.
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Yeah.
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I can't go on with this.
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Yeah.
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But that whole, like, even when we went and interviewed Trump, I mean, you can't pass up on an opportunity to interview the President of the United States, whoever it is, right?
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Yeah.
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And it's like, you've got to be able to do that, whether people are going to hate you or not.
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That's what I always, his blown my mind is like when people, you know, you get invited to the White House and people, people, no, I'm not going because I don't agree with your policies.
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No, you go.
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And it don't matter who the President is, that's an honor.
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I've been in the military for 19 and a half years now.
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And I've never stepped foot in the White House, never gotten in by it.
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I would love to go.
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It would be so cool to see the inside of that place, you know, and shake the President's hand no matter who it is, whether I agree with their policies or not, right?
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You know, it's still the President of the United States, but that blows my mind that people, people are like, hmm, not doing that.
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Yeah, no.
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If you get the opportunity to interview the President, no matter who it is, you do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you're going to get hate, especially if you're a celebrity, especially if you don't sometimes.
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Either way you go with it, you're going to catch a change.
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Absolutely.
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You know, I mean, if we would have sat down with Biden, there would have been a whole other group of people that would have hated.
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Mm-hmm.
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But you're saying that y'all are the real journalists now.
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That's the problem.
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Well, that's a stretch.
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It is.
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Especially where you're going with this.
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It is, but, you know, you do your interviews and stuff and you would actually ask the questions that need to be asked from each person, you know, and these news networks and these so-called journalists,
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they have an agenda that they're having to push, whether it's, you know, internally having to push or their bosses are saying, you know, you're going to make this guy look as bad as you can.
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And that's what's made Rogan so successful.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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He's just, he's the everyday guy that's asking the questions that everybody wants to ask.
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And, you know, he said that he would interview Kamala, you know, if she would come on, and I do believe that he would have treated her fairly.
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I know he would have absolutely treated her fairly.
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I have no doubt about it.
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Would he have asked her hard questions just like he did Trump, yeah?
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Yeah.
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But he's not a Republican.
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I think that's what people don't realize.
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Yeah.
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No, no.
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He's definitely not a Republican.
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But going back to, you know, wrestling here because that's what this podcast is.
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We're not a political podcast by any means.
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What?
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No, I thought we were switching.
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Man.
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That'd be bad if we did.
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It's bad.
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It's bad if we don't.
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It's still bad.
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It's bad either way.
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We're bad.
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It's bad either way.
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So go back to wrestling, you know, I love finding this stuff out about everybody.
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So for you growing up, like, who was your favorite wrestler when you were growing up?
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Undertaker.
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Undertaker.
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Justin.
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By far.
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What?
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Let me have his answer.
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It's his answer.
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Just because he's here, you don't have to say that.
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Big Foley.
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Big Foley.
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Yeah.
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Actually, it's Mc Foley.
00:13:51
Oh, yeah.
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In name of more iconic duo than Mc Foley and Terry Funk.
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I mean, you've got Chainsaw Charlie and Cactus Jack.
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The best Prite Tag team ever.
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Ever.
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Yeah.
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I agree with that.
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Yeah.
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I agree with that.
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Or Stone Cold.
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I mean, that's, that's, that's, that I can't say much about that.
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All jokes aside, all jokes aside, I have, I honestly have two favors, not just because I'm setting in this chair, but it would be, it would be him and Stone Cold.
00:14:21
Yeah.
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I've always been bucketless, meet, you know, and talk to and everything, but yeah.
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Those two guys.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Who'd you like over in WCW?
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I mean, good.
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You're fishing.
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You're fishing.
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I'm not fishing for Flair.
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I'm not fishing for Flair.
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He is.
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I'm interested because we grew up both at the same age watching WCW and everything else.
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I'll be honest with you.
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I've never been a Flair guy.
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I've never lifeless.
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He's always been kind of annoying, kind of like the rock.
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He loved the rock and his, and his mic working out.
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Is he good on the mic?
00:14:54
Yes.
00:14:55
That's 100%.
00:14:56
Yeah.
00:14:57
But he always, you know, he was always for me.
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It was Stone Cold, you know, the taker, you know, the, the, the mic guys never did really appeal to me.
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So I was, I was a, I was a big like Flair Dusty fan.
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I loved, you know, that stuff, right?
00:15:11
I think it was a little bit lower.
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The American dream.
00:15:13
Yeah.
00:15:14
When I was, when I was real little, I did like, you know, sting, just, you know, a Malibu boosting and all that stuff, but I was always, you know, kind of a Flair Dusty fan and everything.
00:15:23
And I was kind of, I kind of agree with you on the rock, though, because when I was watching it, I wasn't necessarily, I'm more of a rock fan now of what he's doing now that I was, when I was younger, because I was a Stone Cold guy,
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too, you know, I liked it.
00:15:34
I thought the rock was cooler when he was Rocky, Maya, via, you know, in the nation of domination, you know.
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That's what I got it all kicked off.
00:15:42
Yeah, yeah.
00:15:43
Yeah.
00:15:44
Yeah.
00:15:45
Um, the Godfather was in that too, yeah, yeah, Ron Simmons, oh, yeah, yeah, Mustafa Muhammad was out.
00:15:52
No, what was what was Godfather's name and what it's called Mustafa, comma Mustafa.
00:15:56
Yeah.
00:15:57
They still use that comma.
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Yeah, name.
00:15:59
Yeah.
00:16:00
Yeah.
00:16:01
But, uh, that comma Mustafa and then Delo, oh, yeah, Delo, Delo, he would always do the Frogs Blash.
00:16:09
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:16:12
Yeah.
00:16:13
Yeah.
00:16:14
Yeah.
00:16:15
He would sell it every time.
00:16:16
It was, it was a good frog's one coming out of that head.
00:16:19
Yeah.
00:16:20
Yeah.
00:16:21
I don't know.
00:16:22
I had no move like that.
00:16:23
Yeah.
00:16:24
I mean, I don't know if his next moves like that anymore either, but I mean, he came out with that head.
00:16:28
And I mean, I don't, like a model head just coming walking down it was, yeah, that was a lot of characters from that era, too, that like I've kind of gotten forgotten, you know, when he first got into wrestling,
00:16:39
I was like, let me show you the rest one I watched, you know.
00:16:42
You know, I think we started out in '98, you know, watching, watching Raw, and some of the wrestlers were like, man, where's that guy at now, you know, and everything?
00:16:51
Because they just, there's so many people.
00:16:53
Yeah.
00:16:54
And the rest went now.
00:16:55
They're all gone now.
00:16:56
Yeah.
00:16:57
I mean, everybody's moved on and set one.
00:17:01
So kicking me out the door.
00:17:03
I thought we had him out and son of a **** keeps coming back.
00:17:10
Oh.
00:17:11
We think, um, scene is going to do what's your opinion?
00:17:16
What's, what's seen as last year going to look like you think, do you think he wins the title?
00:17:20
Do you think he, I hope not.
00:17:24
I know that sounds bad and I don't know.
00:17:28
You know, it's, I went back to that, you know, whole and authentic thing.
00:17:31
You know, like, like, what is, what is your purpose for being here?
00:17:35
You know, you've already showed that, you know, you'd rather be in Hollywood instead of here.
00:17:40
You know, and I get it.
00:17:41
You know, John, you make a better living for your family and everything.
00:17:43
And John seen a good dude, you know, I love him to death and everything.
00:17:47
But I hope that they don't, they don't.
00:17:51
He's already paid his dues.
00:17:52
I don't know how to really answer it.
00:17:53
Yeah.
00:17:54
No, I know, I know where you're going with that.
00:17:56
I mean, he's on his way out.
00:17:59
This is his, this is his goodbye tour, um, you know, it depends on the squash or anything.
00:18:06
You let that fight end in a DQ or something?
00:18:12
Well, I think just, I think putting him, I think putting him in marquee spots, he needs to put other people over at this point.
00:18:18
Well, that's kind of, yeah, they need, he needs to be put in some marquee spot.
00:18:21
He needs to get some wins because he hadn't won in over 2000, whatever day, 400 in some odd days.
00:18:26
Yeah.
00:18:27
So, but he does need, he needs to get, he needs to get some key wins.
00:18:30
But I think in whatever the, the, the bigger key matches, he needs to, he, he probably should, you know, pass the pass the baton on.
00:18:39
Yeah.
00:18:40
And I don't think, yeah, but I don't, I don't think that, I think that's his mindset as well, though.
00:18:46
I don't think, I don't think by any means that he wants to get his hand raised every time going on the way.
00:18:53
I don't think that that's not John's character.
00:18:54
I think he wants to, I think he wants to pay it forward and, and do the best, you know, with this that he can do for the, for the company.
00:19:04
And don't get me wrong.
00:19:05
I love that John Cena is still involved with the WWE, you know, love it.
00:19:10
I love when he shows up.
00:19:11
I think it's so cool when you get those, when you, you know, when you hear the bell tone, go off and you're not expecting it or you hear the glass break or you hear the, you're not expecting it so cool to hear that and see these wrestlers,
00:19:25
you know, come back and everything.
00:19:27
But, but, you know, keep it.
00:19:29
Don't forget who's there every, every house show and every Monday night and every Friday night.
00:19:34
And that's, I don't think by any, I don't think he, he doesn't have that in his head.
00:19:40
He knows that, yeah, he's, he's going to pay it forward.
00:19:44
It's triple H doing all the booking now.
00:19:45
Yeah, he's the, he's the chief content officer.
00:19:49
How's, how's he doing?
00:19:50
He's doing amazing.
00:19:51
Is he, is it better booking than it's ever been?
00:19:54
It's, it's great.
00:19:56
I mean, for, for what he has, you know, as far as the town, I mean, he's doing a phenomenal job.
00:20:03
Crazy for me, who came through the most, like, again, that wild, wild, wild, wild west era, and even under, you know,
00:20:13
under Vince's hand, it was a Monday night was kind of chaos.
00:20:17
And he would change it right up until, yeah, yeah, you would have, you'd be like, say you had to cut a promo and you're 45 seconds away from going through the curtain and he's like,
00:20:30
ah, scratch all that.
00:20:32
This is what I want, you know, and you've got in your head, like how I'm going to deliver this.
00:20:36
And as he tells you, you're going to do it.
00:20:37
You're going to do it.
00:20:38
Yeah, I mean, it's, he's, yeah, but it was, it was so chaotic.
00:20:43
I don't know.
00:20:44
Everyone is so chill.
00:20:46
Now backstage, it is, it is crazy.
00:20:50
Like I don't know that I could, I don't know that I could work in this environment.
00:20:54
It's so chill.
00:20:55
Everyone is so relaxed.
00:20:56
Everybody, not everybody.
00:20:59
There's people back there shooting TikToks and crap, I was like, did anybody ever like, like Vince would say, gosh, crash that we're not doing it.
00:21:08
Was there ever any wrestler that was like, you know, go for yourself or do it.
00:21:12
We're doing it the way you wanted to do it very.
00:21:14
I don't, I don't have any, ah, only think a person I could really think of would be Piper.
00:21:20
Like, Piper, yeah, Piper did what Piper wanted to do.
00:21:24
Yeah.
00:21:25
So he wasn't outlawed.
00:21:26
Yeah.
00:21:27
Piper wasn't outlawed.
00:21:28
And Steve probably probably had a few occasions where he might, Vince might have wanted him to change something, but, you know, Vince, yeah, but could Vince really control like,
00:21:39
because Stone Cold was like, are you, you know, arguably like the biggest thing in wrestling there when, when all that took off, right?
00:21:47
Right.
00:21:48
Like, could, could Steve had really said, no, I don't, I don't think that's right what to do it.
00:21:54
You know?
00:21:55
You get, I mean, once you get to that kind of, that status, you have a little bit more free, freedom to say to question, like instead of go, uh, okay,
00:22:06
you know, at that level, at the rock level, undertaker level, you get to, you, you get to say, ah, you know, you might not win the argument and he still may want you to do it,
00:22:17
but there are those occasions where you just sometimes you, at that level, you, you'll just take the heat that you're going to get when you come back.
00:22:24
But if that's the case, why am the hail, did you let Brock Lesnar win that mat?
00:22:28
Oh, well, that, I mean, I said, I don't, I don't really remember it.
00:22:33
I got concussed and don't really remember.
00:22:35
Oh, really?
00:22:36
Yeah.
00:22:37
Yeah.
00:22:38
Well, potentially concussed.
00:22:39
We don't know.
00:22:40
Shut up.
00:22:41
But it wasn't like a Montreal screwdriver job.
00:22:42
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, had nothing, had nothing to do with that.
00:22:45
No, you can't do any in.
00:22:48
I knew, um, when I got to, when I got to the Superdome that day, I was going over and then to the course of the day, Vincent came and said,
00:22:59
hey, we need, we need to do this.
00:23:01
But why for Brock?
00:23:03
Well, that's, he just, so it, it vents his way of explaining things.
00:23:11
It was like, if not, and granted, I knew that I was on, I was on my last, my last go.
00:23:18
I didn't know if I was coming back the year, and the next year, yeah, it was, I mean, my health, everything was kind of, it was, it was really starting to come into play.
00:23:29
And I think he, I think he just didn't want me to get out with the, with the, the streak I'm broken, like he just felt, he just felt like it,
00:23:40
yeah.
00:23:41
There was so much equity built into the streak.
00:23:44
If someone beat it, what that would do for them, Brock was already established.
00:23:49
Yeah.
00:23:50
He had his run the first time, then he went, and then he conquered the UFC and he came back, you know, his explanation to me was,
00:24:02
well, if not Brock, who, I mean, in the selfish part of me, like I always knew in my head that the, the streak would be broken eventually.
00:24:12
Oh, you knew.
00:24:13
I mean, I, I always figured, like I didn't know, no, but I mean, I figured at some point, I figured if the right person came along, that would be the greatest thing that I could ever give anybody.
00:24:24
Well, I'm not, I'm not going to spoil it because Brian, Brian's got some questions to ask you to.
00:24:30
Oh, yeah.
00:24:31
So that's one thing that's going to get brought up.
00:24:32
I don't want to get too deep into it, but your question of, if not him, then who he, he, he, what, that's one of his questions.
00:24:37
The Montreal screw job.
00:24:39
Mm-hm.
00:24:40
Was you there for that?
00:24:41
Yeah, I was.
00:24:42
Mm-hm.
00:24:43
How was that backstage afterwards?
00:24:44
Tents.
00:24:45
Bad.
00:24:46
Very, very tense.
00:24:47
Did they talk backstage afterwards?
00:24:48
Well, so what happens, the, the, the, the, the, the screw job happens, um, we're all, not Vince yet, not Vince and, and his guys are not there yet,
00:24:59
but we're in the dressing room.
00:25:01
And Vince and Briscoe and, and yeah, they're not there yet.
00:25:04
Okay.
00:25:05
But we're in them.
00:25:06
I'm in the dressing room with Brett and Night Heart, Davey Boy, Sean's there.
00:25:11
I'm there.
00:25:12
You know, they're kind of chirping back and forth, and it's, you know, there's a lot of them.
00:25:19
Greg was probably pissed at Sean.
00:25:20
Oh, oh, yeah.
00:25:21
Oh, yeah.
00:25:22
He, he, he totally, you know, he totally believed that Sean was, you know, part of it.
00:25:26
And, um, like I was like, oh, man, this is bad.
00:25:29
This is bad.
00:25:30
So I get up and like, I'm, I go, I go, I go to get fans to like, he, fans has got a, you know, he's got to do something.
00:25:35
And he's food this over.
00:25:36
Yeah.
00:25:37
There's some, there, there's got to be some explanations.
00:25:39
We got to, we got to have this.
00:25:40
Well, so I get up and I go out of the dressing room and I don't, I was probably 20 feet and Vince was already on his way and he's got Bruce and Shane and Patterson and Briscoll with him.
00:25:55
So I go back and then I throw everybody out of the dressing room that really wasn't part of team Brett.
00:26:01
So you're the mediator at this point, sort of.
00:26:03
Yeah.
00:26:04
So there was a bunch of people like they didn't need to be in there for whatever was about to happen.
00:26:09
Right.
00:26:10
So, um, I made everybody else leave, got them out of the dressing room.
00:26:15
So again, there's, there's Brett and, and, and Davey boy, night heart, Sean is, is setting down there and then Vince and his guys coming set across the way from where Brett was.
00:26:30
He was keeping his distance.
00:26:31
Well, yeah, he, he just, you know, and he started explaining it.
00:26:34
I went and set, I went and set right next to Sean.
00:26:40
And, you know, they're going back and forth and, you know, Vince is trying to explain, you know, why you had to do it and Brett, very nonchalant.
00:26:47
He's getting undressed and he's explaining to Vince that, you know, I'm going to take a shower.
00:26:52
I'm going to get dressed and if you're, you're here, I'm going to, I'm going to knock you out.
00:26:57
Mm-hmm.
00:26:58
This is very not what wasn't screaming, it wasn't, it was just very matter of fact.
00:27:02
This is what's going to happen.
00:27:03
Very like, too hard.
00:27:04
Yeah.
00:27:05
And so, yeah.
00:27:06
So they're kind of going back and forth.
00:27:07
And then, um, I, I remember Sean trying to, trying to pipe in a little bit and I just grabbed, reached over and I grabbed his leg, and I was just like, no, don't push it.
00:27:17
No, no, no, just, no, at that time, were you and Sean on good terms, were you still kind of, you were still, I mean, we're better than we were, but we're still not, we're not even close.
00:27:27
Yeah.
00:27:28
We're not buddy buddies by any stretch of the imaginations, what I just kind of gradually said, no, you might just want to sit here and chill.
00:27:35
Yeah.
00:27:36
Because it wasn't, he wasn't the focus of this, right?
00:27:39
It was Vince.
00:27:40
He didn't need to be the focus.
00:27:41
Yeah.
00:27:42
He didn't need to, to, and of course, when you get all caught up in it, you want to, you want to defend yourself or you want to do whatever and, so you don't think Sean knew about it?
00:27:53
No, Sean knew about it.
00:27:54
Yeah.
00:27:55
He definitely knew about it.
00:27:56
But I'm just saying he just, we're Sean and Brett friends going into that, well, no, they already had issues.
00:28:02
Yeah.
00:28:03
They had issues over some, you know, they were, yeah, no, they should, he could probably though, before they went out and said, hey, here's what's going to happen.
00:28:13
You don't do that.
00:28:14
Well, so, so Brett didn't want to drop the title, Brett, Brett, it was going to be on the next night.
00:28:22
He was going to WCW.
00:28:23
Right.
00:28:24
Right.
00:28:25
Right.
00:28:26
Brett didn't want to go to, he didn't want to leave WWE.
00:28:26
He kind of got his hand forced.
00:28:30
And, but the thing was, is he didn't want to drop the belt.
00:28:35
He didn't want to drop the belt to Sean.
00:28:36
He had his reasons, you got to, you can go back and not, you know, tell you all the details of what was said.
00:28:43
Did it stand from the Iron Man, the, the Iron Man match?
00:28:46
Well, it just, it's them from just two, two egos that didn't really, really get along well.
00:28:53
Which was an amazing match, by the way.
00:28:54
Yeah, it was.
00:28:55
That was a long match.
00:28:56
Those, those guys, those two guys together, and they're amazing, both of them, you know, they could have great matches with broomsticks, you know, you'd be entertained.
00:29:06
Right.
00:29:07
But, yeah, there was a lot of animosity already coming into it, and I think at one point, Brett was going to drop it, but then he decided that he wasn't going to drop it to Sean.
00:29:22
And, you just couldn't let Brett leave with the WWE title and show up.
00:29:32
Go into WC.
00:29:33
Yeah.
00:29:34
Show up on their show with our title.
00:29:35
You just couldn't do it.
00:29:37
So, that's, that's why the screwdriver happened, they had to, they had to get the title off of Brett.
00:29:43
Because I mean, it was a war back then.
00:29:45
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're already, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're, we're, we're in it at that point.
00:29:50
You've already dealt with the women's title being dumped into a trash can and everything, yeah.
00:29:53
A lot of ways goes over, takes the win.
00:29:54
Yeah.
00:29:55
WWE drops it in the trash can on there.
00:29:58
So, yeah, you couldn't let, you couldn't let the WWE title go to WCW and let whatever they would do.
00:30:04
It hurt me because, you know, at that point, I'm really good friends with Brett and, and there's nobody that I'd ever rather work than Sean,
00:30:17
right?
00:30:18
It's just, it's really an unfortunate situation, you know, it just, it just kind of circumstances led us to that point and I'd really tough decision had to be made.
00:30:33
When he came out of the shower, was Vince gone?
00:30:35
No.
00:30:36
Oh, no, he stayed.
00:30:37
Yeah.
00:30:38
But it never hit a bowling point.
00:30:39
No, no.
00:30:40
It did.
00:30:41
It did.
00:30:42
Yeah, Brett got up.
00:30:43
He got, once he got dressed, he got up, just started walking across the dressing room.
00:30:46
Everybody kind of stood up and he launched a punch that I have no idea how it got through all these people.
00:30:54
It's been right in the temple.
00:30:56
And Vince went down.
00:30:58
That was it.
00:30:59
That's what I had.
00:31:00
I don't know how it got through.
00:31:03
I have no idea how that punch got through, but it did.
00:31:05
It was like, the bottom intervention, the, the Lord knew Vince, it happened, man, it hit him and he, he went down like a ton of bricks, man, the Lord knew and I was like,
00:31:17
oh, it really happened.
00:31:19
It did.
00:31:20
It just, wow.
00:31:21
I mean, he told him what was going to happen.
00:31:22
He told him.
00:31:23
He, he, he matter of fact, he told him that I'm going to punch you and knock you out and then I'm going to leave.
00:31:28
And that's exactly what he did.
00:31:30
And Brett spent on Vince, leaving the ring, yeah, yeah, yeah, he broke some, I don't know, $10,000 monitors at the time,
00:31:40
yeah, yeah, which was what that whole scene, that was this little bitty TV.
00:31:44
It would stick up out of the, yeah, they didn't give those away, especially back then, they moved the budget, wasn't quite what it is now.
00:31:53
I've got a question.
00:31:55
I've got a question.
00:31:57
What are the tables, you might not can ask for this because you know, it's like the whole magician trick, you know, you don't give away.
00:32:03
Is there like pins in the table that they pull before there's a spot on the table to make it come apart easier?
00:32:08
And actually, I honestly, I don't know how they do it, but I do know, it depends on like whether or not they want,
00:32:21
like sometimes they reinforce the table so that it makes sure that it doesn't break, and then there's other times where what I would imagine where it's not as put together as well.
00:32:32
If they want, you know, they need some kind of big glass, maybe there's like just a couple pins in there.
00:32:37
And like, if you take the pins, it makes it way less stable and the table just collapses.
00:32:41
Yeah.
00:32:42
Yeah.
00:32:43
There's a lot of force.
00:32:44
Yeah.
00:32:45
There's been, I think there's been several iterations of the table.
00:32:48
I know it's extremely dangerous, a lot of times for the guy who's giving a bump out there because of the blowout of the table of the pieces, because of the,
00:32:59
they shoot out, right?
00:33:01
Like the guy that's taking the bump, the guy that takes the bump on the tables and probably the best position, the safest because he's going down flat with the table.
00:33:08
He's going to go down flat with the table, right?
00:33:10
Whereas the, when the sides blow out, if you catch one on the top of the knee, you're going to be in.
00:33:15
So a few sides out in my day, you know what I'm saying, I'm sure you did.
00:33:20
So we're talking about sex, just so we're all the same things.
00:33:23
We're going to do something.
00:33:26
Who's your Mount Rushmore wrestlers?
00:33:28
Ooh.
00:33:29
Mount Rushmore wrestlers.
00:33:30
Four.
00:33:31
You only get four.
00:33:32
It's not five.
00:33:33
Like you thought.
00:33:34
Man.
00:33:35
Stone cold taker.
00:33:36
Man.
00:33:38
Man, macho man and Hogan.
00:33:45
Okay.
00:33:46
I can live with that.
00:33:47
I think macho man gets a little underrated a lot of times.
00:33:49
Yeah.
00:33:50
A lot of macho moves.
00:33:51
No, no, no.
00:33:52
Can I change?
00:33:53
Yeah, I guess.
00:33:54
I mean, it's still a bit warrior.
00:33:55
It's still to macho man.
00:33:56
Mm-hmm.
00:33:57
I can argue with you on that one.
00:33:58
Well, it's a bit warrior.
00:33:59
It's a bit more warrior.
00:34:00
It's a bit more warrior.
00:34:01
I love watching the ultimate warrior.
00:34:04
And him trying to have to do that promo, too, is one of my favorite, where he has pissed it off.
00:34:10
No, why am I doing this, you know?
00:34:14
And it was such a bad promo.
00:34:16
Oh, yeah.
00:34:17
They were out there, man.
00:34:18
It was promo.
00:34:19
Yeah, they were a little different.
00:34:20
Yeah.
00:34:21
It was out there.
00:34:22
It would be between the ultimate warrior and macho, man.
00:34:26
It's like, whichever, whichever, cooked out wrestler, you really got there, you know?
00:34:29
Because I mean, they were, they were hopper, boy.
00:34:32
Oh, my God.
00:34:35
That's too much true fans' perspective, right?
00:34:37
Yeah.
00:34:38
Yeah.
00:34:39
He was tweaking worse, didn't he?
00:34:40
Yeah.
00:34:41
He was tweaking worse.
00:34:42
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:43
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:44
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:45
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:46
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:47
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:48
He was tweaking worse.
00:34:49
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:50
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:51
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:52
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:53
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:54
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:55
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:56
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:57
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:58
No, he was tweaking worse.
00:34:59
I'm pure.
00:35:01
I'm pure.
00:35:02
All right.
00:35:03
So we're going to say we've never done before.
00:35:04
OK.
00:35:05
This is about to make the fans happier than anything ever.
00:35:07
This is going to make me happy.
00:35:08
And it'll make you-- I have no idea what that was going to be.
00:35:11
Bro, this is fixed in a way.
00:35:13
This is going to make-- this will be the coolest thing that I've ever gotten to do so far.
00:35:19
So far.
00:35:19
He asked me this last night.
00:35:20
He goes, as a father, this is the one thing I would please let this happen.
00:35:26
And I was like,
00:37:07
OK, I'm going to leave the set.
00:35:29
I'm going to bring in.
00:35:31
Hey, does that have to be clapping?
00:35:34
Does that have to be clapping?
00:35:35
I don't know.
00:35:36
I don't know.
00:35:38
Taked in front of a lot of studio audience.
00:35:40
Justin, I want you to introduce the new guest for the next couple of minutes.
00:35:46
OK.
00:35:47
And let you guys have some fun as a father.
00:35:50
Perfect.
00:35:51
This is this cool.
00:35:51
This is really cool.
00:35:52
So this is my oldest son, Bryant.
00:35:55
Come on over.
00:35:56
Come on over.
00:35:57
So I told Brian-- Brode, Jack, don't you come back.
00:36:01
Oh, we already upgraded.
00:36:02
Getting my happy dad, is he?
00:36:04
You cannot drink this.
00:36:06
Well, I mean, I know.
00:36:07
Obviously.
00:36:07
You cannot drink the hard celt, sir.
00:36:09
So just to give you a little backstory.
00:36:11
His first introduction into pro wrestling was WrestleMania 34.
00:36:20
Right?
00:36:20
Nice.
00:36:21
I took him to WrestleMania 34.
00:36:23
We're sitting in a suite.
00:36:24
And he had never watched wrestling in his life.
00:36:26
But I had a friend call me and said, OK, I've got a suite.
00:36:29
Here, let me have a pat just front there.
00:36:31
Yeah.
00:36:33
I got a suite if you'd like to come.
00:36:34
Well, I wanted him to go with me, because I didn't want to ride all the way over New Orleans by myself.
00:36:39
Right.
00:36:39
So I talked-- I condom in doing what I was like, dude, it's all the doctor perfecting a drink.
00:36:43
This dude's like four scum.
00:36:44
Right, he's like Dr.
00:36:45
Pepper.
00:36:46
I'm there, right?
00:36:47
So we went, and I'm sure they're fixing to show the clip, because I sent it to Matt of Bryant.
00:36:57
When you-- when the tone hit.
00:36:59
Right.
00:37:00
And then the flames terrified.
00:37:03
Sweet.
00:37:04
I don't want to-- I don't want to actually admit I was terrified.
00:37:07
But you can see it all over the face.
00:37:09
You can see it all over the face.
00:37:11
He didn't know what to-- It was Armageddon, right?
00:37:12
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:13
Yeah, and it was awesome.
00:37:15
I was like, now you're getting the experience.
00:37:17
And he has been hooked on wrestling ever since.
00:37:20
I mean, like, still to this day, that was 2018.
00:37:22
And we're sitting in 2024 right now.
00:37:24
I'm still loves wrestling.
00:37:25
Awesome.
00:37:26
And I said, we're getting to meet the Undertaker.
00:37:27
I want you to come up with a few questions that you can ask him that-- OK.
00:37:31
Yeah.
00:37:32
So now's your time to show.
00:37:34
Here we go, man.
00:37:34
OK.
00:37:35
And you're auditioning for-- could be my new guest host.
00:37:41
Let's go.
00:37:41
I've been looking for one for a while.
00:37:43
OK.
00:37:45
So I have the most simple questions ever.
00:37:48
They're so simple.
00:37:50
First one I had, and you don't have to answer it.
00:37:54
Like, what do you think is the weirdest storyline that Vince has ever like pitched?
00:38:00
That has been pitched by Vince.
00:38:05
Pitched by Vince.
00:38:07
Pitched by Vince.
00:38:08
Like, I'm talking like anyone.
00:38:09
Like, you see-- You didn't have to be accepted.
00:38:12
You didn't have to be accepted, but he just pitched it.
00:38:14
And like-- That's actually a good question.
00:38:18
So pitched it for me.
00:38:20
For anybody.
00:38:21
For anybody.
00:38:21
It had to be the whole Katie Vick thing, the McCain.
00:38:25
Yeah, OK.
00:38:26
Does that make sense?
00:38:27
Which one is it?
00:38:28
Katie Vick, where his dead girlfriend and-- He made love to a dead woman.
00:38:33
Oh my god.
00:38:34
I mean, he did didn't know.
00:38:35
He did an echo filly.
00:38:36
Yeah, it was probably the actual the worst moment.
00:38:40
Right.
00:38:41
Was there anybody like-- What?
00:38:43
Why?
00:38:44
Yeah, it's often considered one of the worst segments ever in WWE television.
00:38:50
I don't know if it was about Venus segments or wild.
00:38:52
Yeah, they were wild, and there was a lot of innuendo there.
00:38:57
But the Katie Vick thing was really bad.
00:39:02
Yeah, it was-- Just go back, go back, check it out.
00:39:05
Yeah.
00:39:06
It's a good question.
00:39:07
Yeah.
00:39:08
Yeah.
00:39:09
OK, next one.
00:39:10
Let me go ahead.
00:39:11
Can I just guess what your favorite mania match is?
00:39:14
Like ever?
00:39:14
Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:15
Your 25 against Shawn Michaels.
00:39:16
No doubt about it.
00:39:17
OK.
00:39:18
Yeah.
00:39:19
Do you have a least favorite?
00:39:21
Oh, good.
00:39:22
I got-- man.
00:39:23
How long have we got?
00:39:24
How long have we got left on the stage?
00:39:26
I've got some real stinkers.
00:39:31
I would probably have to go-- I mean, I'll figure out what number it was, 7, 8.
00:39:37
If you don't get it right, you're screwed.
00:39:39
Yeah, they'll kill me.
00:39:40
You're probably WrestleMania 9, Las Vegas.
00:39:45
Caesar's powerless against Giant Gonzalez.
00:39:48
It was awful.
00:39:50
I've seen clips of it.
00:39:51
Yeah, it was pretty-- It was pretty bad, yeah.
00:39:55
And that's given it too much credit, Brian.
00:39:58
So yeah, it's pretty bad.
00:39:59
That's probably my least favorite.
00:40:02
WrestleMania 9, I pray to God.
00:40:04
He got it wrong.
00:40:05
Please.
00:40:06
I hope you got that number wrong.
00:40:07
Is it dead?
00:40:09
Wait, wait, wait.
00:40:10
It's not good.
00:40:12
Jake, no, I think I'm right this time.
00:40:16
I pray he's not right.
00:40:18
There's nothing that's going to be happier.
00:40:19
Anyway.
00:40:20
He's nervous.
00:40:21
He's nervous.
00:40:22
He's nervous.
00:40:23
He's nervous.
00:40:24
He's nervous.
00:40:25
He's nervous.
00:40:26
He was nervous.
00:40:27
I was right.
00:40:28
I was right.
00:40:29
So they had all the marks that had just delete all the paragraphs they had.
00:40:33
Yeah.
00:40:34
Because they had a full paragraph just written.
00:40:35
Just written.
00:40:36
You already erosed you.
00:40:37
Yes.
00:40:38
Yes, they will too.
00:40:40
I'm sure there's plenty of other things that were said in this episode that they'll kill me.
00:40:46
The conversation is going to have fun.
00:40:48
Yeah.
00:40:49
Whatever.
00:40:50
I don't get it.
00:40:51
I don't know.
00:40:52
Didn't have it.
00:40:53
It's got something.
00:40:54
Oh, yeah.
00:40:55
Everybody's got an opinion.
00:40:56
What was my other ones?
00:41:00
Oh.
00:41:01
It's kind of like the same thing, but it's like, do you have like a match like you would change?
00:41:07
Like, for me, they're not happening or just change like the whole booking of it?
00:41:14
Well, there's a lot of matches I wish I didn't have.
00:41:17
Goldberg.
00:41:18
Oh, yeah.
00:41:19
I mean, well, I want to have the man to get rabia.
00:41:22
Yeah.
00:41:23
No.
00:41:24
I wanted to have the match.
00:41:25
I just obviously the outcome of it wasn't a good and maybe the brothers of destruction.
00:41:34
Oh, my gosh.
00:41:35
That one.
00:41:36
That was in Saudi Arabia, too.
00:41:38
Yeah.
00:41:39
Who has that one figured out?
00:41:40
Like, right.
00:41:41
There's over.
00:41:42
What?
00:41:43
There's over 120 years of ring experience.
00:41:45
That's the dream.
00:41:46
That's the dream match.
00:41:48
If I ever thought like I could just dial, just call one in, that would have been it.
00:41:54
Like, I was like, this is going to be cake.
00:41:57
This is going to be easy.
00:41:58
I've got, I've got myself and three of the greatest workers in the history of the business.
00:42:05
We can do this one in our sleep and it just turned into a complete train wreck.
00:42:09
I mean, from, you know, two or three minutes in, triple H tears of peck.
00:42:13
Yeah.
00:42:16
Sean Michaels, you know, comes up short on the big moonsault off the top row.
00:42:21
Kane's mask comes off.
00:42:23
It was just like, it was a calamity of errors.
00:42:27
And the more we tried to fix it, the worse it got.
00:42:30
And it was just like.
00:42:33
Who?
00:42:34
Yeah, I felt bad because I really did.
00:42:36
I felt bad for Sean because Sean didn't, you know, Sean had always been steadfast when, when I retired him at 26 that he was retired.
00:42:45
And we talked him in to come in back for this.
00:42:48
We were like, how easy is this going to be?
00:42:50
Right.
00:42:51
Right.
00:42:52
Famous last words.
00:42:53
But they was last words.
00:42:54
And now he's of their having to carry it because.
00:42:56
Yeah.
00:42:57
Because everybody else.
00:42:58
Yeah.
00:42:59
Yeah.
00:43:00
Yeah.
00:43:01
It was a, it was a disaster.
00:43:02
But to answer your question earlier about, if not Brock, then who?
00:43:06
Okay.
00:43:07
We just have this discussion on the way over here this morning.
00:43:09
So I'm of the mind.
00:43:11
It shouldn't have been broken.
00:43:12
Like, right.
00:43:13
I don't think it should have.
00:43:14
If it was anyone, it was Roman because he was the one that need to put over.
00:43:19
Yeah.
00:43:20
Yeah.
00:43:21
I agree with you 100%.
00:43:22
Selfishly.
00:43:23
If I, yeah, it would have been great if it had never been broken selfishly.
00:43:27
But that's not how the business works.
00:43:30
You pay things forward.
00:43:32
And I would have, I thought it would have been much better for Roman.
00:43:38
And where Roman was at at the time, then it would be for Brock.
00:43:42
Yeah.
00:43:43
I love Brock.
00:43:44
I mean, me and Brock are great.
00:43:45
And, you know, it, it, it was good for me because, you know, I mean, everybody understands what Brock is.
00:43:50
And, and, you know, he's a legit.
00:43:53
He's a legit dude, right?
00:43:55
So beating, you know, beating me, that, that's, well, I got beat by one of the toughest dudes that have ever been in the ring, right?
00:44:02
But as a business, I think, as a business thing, I think Rome, it would have done Roman.
00:44:07
Much better.
00:44:08
Yeah.
00:44:09
It would have been better for him than Brock was already established.
00:44:12
Yeah, absolutely.
00:44:13
Like there was nothing more he could have had in that company.
00:44:15
Yeah.
00:44:16
And, and, and Roman was, he, you know, Roman was on the cusp, right?
00:44:20
Of, of, yeah.
00:44:21
That next step.
00:44:22
And, yeah, I think everything's, I think everything worked out all right for him.
00:44:25
Yeah.
00:44:26
But I would have much rather, I would have much rather given that to Roman around like 2013, 2014.
00:44:31
He wasn't getting pushed because he was still with the shield.
00:44:34
Yeah.
00:44:37
Once he got out of the shield and like once everything ended, like that's when all of it, like took off and they sort of like pushing him like even more because next year he won the rumble.
00:44:43
Yeah.
00:44:44
And then he faced Brock Emanuea.
00:44:46
So, yeah, I think it was just like, they just didn't see anything in Roman yet.
00:44:51
But like if they did, they would have given it to Roman.
00:44:54
Yeah.
00:44:55
Well, they saw a lot in Roman.
00:44:57
They were just, you know, a lot of times what happens is they start to put the machine behind somebody who's not quite ready yet.
00:45:03
Yeah.
00:45:04
And a lot of times with our audience and our fan base, if you shove somebody down their throat, then they revolt.
00:45:10
Like Valviness.
00:45:11
Yeah.
00:45:12
Well, yeah, shove down the throat.
00:45:15
See how you did that?
00:45:18
He's in the regular rotation now.
00:45:21
Yeah.
00:45:22
Yeah.
00:45:23
He's definitely, he's coming back.
00:45:25
But like Gold does.
00:45:27
Yeah.
00:45:28
I thought he was, I thought he turned it at Jesus Freak during that whole segment and the whole time is like he is coming back.
00:45:34
Like he was talking about Gold does.
00:45:35
That was awesome.
00:45:36
You know, do you remember that?
00:45:37
That whole, yeah.
00:45:38
That was fun.
00:45:39
And then when Gold does came back, I was like, let's go.
00:45:41
I love Gold does.
00:45:42
I love it.
00:45:43
He just lives up north here a little bit.
00:45:46
Yeah.
00:45:47
Yeah.
00:45:48
Yeah.
00:45:49
I agree with you.
00:45:50
Yeah.
00:45:51
You got a good wrestling mind on you, man.
00:45:52
Thank you.
00:45:53
Yeah.
00:45:54
That's pretty impressive.
00:45:55
Yeah.
00:45:56
Thanks a lot of research.
00:45:57
Are you and Kane really brothers?
00:45:59
Yes.
00:46:00
He taught twin sons of different mothers.
00:46:03
He gave me one, like when he brought it up, like to figure out questions, that was one of them.
00:46:07
He told me to do.
00:46:08
Yeah.
00:46:09
He's trying to get you up, man.
00:46:10
I was.
00:46:11
I was like, yeah.
00:46:12
It's only been within the last couple of years that I would even smarten people up.
00:46:17
I've always told people, yeah, we're brothers.
00:46:19
Half brothers.
00:46:20
Yeah.
00:46:21
We're brothers.
00:46:22
I've got, I've got one last thing.
00:46:23
I know we're fixing, we're getting ready to, you know, you came from, you came from the wrestling of K-Fape.
00:46:31
Right.
00:46:32
You stay K-Fape all the time.
00:46:33
Mm-hmm.
00:46:34
How hard of an adjustment has it been because it's not really like that nowadays.
00:46:37
You know, like have their own online personalities and everything.
00:46:41
Right.
00:46:42
Was that hard for you to get out of?
00:46:44
Yeah.
00:46:45
Yeah.
00:46:46
Yeah.
00:46:47
And to, even, even doing this show, sometimes I'll get into a middle of us, I'll get to the story.
00:46:52
I'll get to a point of it.
00:46:53
And I'm in my head.
00:46:54
I'm battling whether or not I want to, how far I want to go with the details.
00:46:58
Right.
00:46:59
Because it breaks K-Fape or, you know, and I've broken it a million times.
00:47:03
But it's still, it's always in my head like, do I really want to, do I really want to say that?
00:47:09
But you're able now to be Mark or the Undertaker.
00:47:12
Yeah.
00:47:13
No, Mark and it's kind of all morphed together now.
00:47:15
Yeah.
00:47:16
Yeah.
00:47:17
And what I've tried to do with the original Undertaker character is kind of let it rest in peace for no, you know, no other pun intended.
00:47:26
That's why I don't make appearances anymore with the hat and the coat.
00:47:29
I just try to-- Oh, you don't?
00:47:31
No.
00:47:32
I've tried to let it-- There's no process.
00:47:34
You get you to do that.
00:47:35
Everybody's got a price.
00:47:36
Everybody's got a price.
00:47:37
I mean, but I try not to.
00:47:41
Yeah.
00:47:42
The number would have to be really, really big.
00:47:44
And it would have to make sense somehow or another.
00:47:46
So yeah, so I've really, I really push to kind of more Mark Callaway now because I want to, I want to honor that character and the work that I did and all of the K-Faking that I did for that character.
00:48:00
You know, if there was something left in the tank as far as me getting back in the ring, you know, then I would have to figure out some kind of way to something catastrophic to happen to Mark Callaway to bring that other guy out.
00:48:16
But that's just not going to happen.
00:48:18
So I want to let that out.
00:48:20
You know, not being corny, but I do want to let the undertaker kind of rest in peace.
00:48:26
And kind of everything now that you see like the other night on the Netflix deal was, you know, it was the American badass or-- It was just cool as hell.
00:48:34
Like, you got two of the coolest down personalities in wrestling.
00:48:37
You get the American badass.
00:48:39
That's fun for me at this point.
00:48:40
Yeah, it's so much more fun.
00:48:42
And it frees me up to do things like that where I can kind of cross over and-- And be yourself.
00:48:47
Yeah.
00:48:48
Yeah.
00:48:50
Well, man, thanks for coming out here.
00:48:52
Thank you for having me.
00:48:53
This has really been fun.
00:48:54
I appreciate you having me on.
00:48:55
This is like a dream podcast to mine.
00:48:57
Well-- You know, I've always wanted to meet you.
00:49:00
It's really cool to walk in this morning and, my God, there's the undertaker, you know?
00:49:05
What's left of it?
00:49:06
Yeah, man, no, this is great and continuous success.
00:49:10
And thank you for your service.
00:49:13
That does a golden recognize here.
00:49:15
I appreciate it.
00:49:16
And congratulations with your retirement.
00:49:18
Thank you.
00:49:19
You coming to the retirement ceremony?
00:49:21
If I get invited, I might.
00:49:22
You never know.
00:49:23
That'd be badass.
00:49:24
That would be.
00:49:25
I might have to do the retirement ceremony at the same time as that charity ride.
00:49:29
That's high.
00:49:30
That's my target.
00:49:31
And we can raise money for, you know, raise money for people that are missing.
00:49:36
Liam's saying you can show up for my retirement ceremony, you know?
00:49:39
I could bring text to that.
00:49:40
Yeah.
00:49:41
I could bring text to that.
00:49:42
Yeah.
00:49:43
Or?
00:49:44
Not.
00:49:45
Not.
00:49:46
No.
00:49:47
And, bro, you're quite a impressive young man, man.
00:49:49
Thank you.
00:49:50
You might have a future in podcasting.
00:49:51
Thank you.
00:49:52
Yeah.
00:49:53
Thank you.
00:49:54
Well, guys, thanks for being here.
00:49:55
Thanks for having me on.
00:49:56
Yeah, man.
00:49:57
That's all.
00:49:58
This has been fun.
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